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Interview with Ambassador Richard Boucher, U.S. Representative to APEC

Richard A. Boucher,  a career U.S. diplomat since 1977, began his current asignment as US Senior Official for APEC, the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation forum, in July 1999.  Prior to this assignment, he was twice Chief of Mission at US diplomatic posts overseas.  From 1996 to 1999, he headed the US Consulate General in Hong Kong as Consul General.  Mr. Boucher was United States Ambassador to Cyprus from October 1993 to June 1996.  Previously, he served for four and a half years as the Deputy Spokesman and Spokesman for three Secretaries of State.  Boucher is rumored to reassume the duties of Spokesman for his fourth Secretary of State shortly.

Insight: First, Ambassador Boucher I’d like to thank you for agreeing to talk with us.  As a key government official working with Asia on trade and other issues and as former head of U.S. operations in Hong Kong, you have had long experience with Asia.  Your insights will therefore be of great interest to our readers.  My first question is about the Asia Pacific Economic Cooperation organization, APEC, where you serve as the U.S. government’s senior representative.  Although APEC will soon reach its tenth anniversary, in terms of international organizations it is a relatively new organization and is hardly a household word.  Because of this, many of our readers may not understand exactly what APEC is and what it seeks to accomplish.  Could you describe for us what the APEC organization is and what is its goal or reason for being?

Answer: First, let me thank you for this opportunity to talk about APEC and how we pursue our economic policy goals through this rather unique organization.   APEC is a collection of 21 economies of the Asia-Pacific (see www.apecsec.org.sg for more information) who come together to open up trade and investment and pursue economic reform.  We have a series of meetings every year, including a Leader’s Meeting.   President Clinton met his counterparts at the last Leaders Meeting in September 1999 in New Zealand; this year’s meeting is in November in Brunei.

The organization can really take on any topic the Leaders want.   Responding to their direction, we try to create a momentum for reform as well as deliver real benefits in terms of lower tariffs, smoother trade, more open and stable economies, better social safety nets, and a cleaner environment.

Insight: As I understand it, APEC representatives meet many times throughout the year on a host of issues.  Everything from the environment and technology to customs regulations and other issues.  Is this true and what kinds of meetings are planned for say the first quarter of 2000?

Answer: In the early part of this year, we start the planning and project cycle with a meeting of officials in Brunei in February.  We also have planned meetings of the Telecommunications Working Group, Education Ministers, economic experts, Customs officials, aviation experts and a whole variety of sub-groups.  Meanwhile, we are proceeding rapidly to implement several projects in APEC economies to help them create the proper market environment for electronic commerce and for distribution of natural gas.

Insight:  In August, APEC held its most recent annual Ministerial and Leaders meeting in New Zealand.  What were the major accomplishments of that meeting?

Answer: The Leader’s meeting in Auckland created a policy momentum for further reform, to match the economic momentum that is now being seen in the region.  All the Leaders pledged that there would be no complacency in their reform efforts.  They also specified common goals for a new round of world trade talks, including specifics like ending agricultural export subsidies and moving forward rapidly on tariff liberalization for key sectors.   Finally, under the theme of strengthening markets, they directed officials and Ministers to carry out specific work this year, as mentioned above, to improve markets for natural gas, lay the foundation for electronic commerce, expand air services and open up other areas.

Insight: Why should business people in the U.S. and Asia care about APEC and its work?  How will APEC affect how they work, do business and live over the next say ten years?

Answer: Business and private sector groups are key contributors to APEC’s work.  Almost every program or project in APEC requires significant involvement of experts from outside government.  We work hand in glove with our business community, relying on them for ideas, for help in promoting initiatives and for help in implementing them. 

For our private sector, APEC can deliver benefits on two levels.  First, it can help open up the overall environment for business and trade, contributing to prosperity and jobs at home as well as abroad.  Second, we can fix specific areas that are problems:  slow Customs processing, high barriers for small firms, etc.

Insight: The host nation for APEC changes each year.  Last year it was New Zealand and in 2000 it will be Brunei.  Will Brunei be the site of all this year’s talks and what issues in particular will the U.S. be pushing to achieve at this years meetings?

Answer: Brunei’s priorities are quite straightforward:   a solid year of accomplishment centering on information technology, small and medium enterprises and economic and technical cooperation.  This coincides very closely with the U.S. agenda to lay the foundations for a 21st Century market economy in Asia that can resist shocks and can adapt to the new digital age.  We are working with Brunei on specific projects that can help prepare economies for electronic commerce and a more flexible economic environment.  Brunei has a particular interest as well in energy and we are working with the Brunei government to promote the use of clean energy sources and the expansion of a market basis for stable energy supplies in the region.

Insight: The recent World Trade Organization (WTO) meeting in Seattle was much more controversial than many had expected.  Labor and environmental organizations have used the demonstrations and the city’s response to attack both the WTO and the idea that open markets are necessarily a good thing.  Do you see the APEC meetings also becoming more controversial and how do you respond to the critics of globalization that global free trade has gone too far?

Answer: APEC has been a force for more open trade and will continue to work for further progress, because member economies are finding that more open trade brings opportunity to all of us.  In fact, APEC was instrumental in the last round of trade negotiations and will continue to press forward toward a new round.  APEC, because it is a voluntary and cooperative organization, is also an example of how nations can cooperate on a broad trade agenda, and involve outside groups in our work.  APEC has pressed, for example, an environmental agenda for trade talks that would reduce barriers to trade in environmental goods and eliminate the subsidies that some countries apply to agricultural exports or fishing that cause harm to the environment.

Insight: As fallout of the WTO meting in Seattle, some observers are saying the U.S.-China agreement on opening markets could be undone by a backlash against free trade and a coalescing of environmental, labor and other critics bent upon opposing greater U.S. trade with China.  As a person who has lived and worked in China and who is also a key voice on Asian trade policy in the U.S. government, do you really see the impact of what happened in Seattle as being so profound?  Is a vote on permanent normal trading relations for China likely to go down to defeat? 

Answer: The agreement with China is good for America, and we look forward to its passage.  The President is making it a top priority in the New Year to seek congressional support for permanent Normal Trade Relations with China.  As the President said recently: "Bringing China into the World Trade Organization (WTO) on the strong terms we negotiated will advance critical economic and national security goals.  It will open a growing market to American workers, farmers, and businesses.  And more than any other step we can take right now, it will draw China into a system of international rules and thereby encourage the Chinese to choose reform at home and integration with the world."

Insight: You were in Asia in the years leading up to the Asian Financial Crisis and saw the Crisis hit Hong Kong and many other countries in the region hard.  Now at least most of Asia seems to be reemerging from the crisis into solid growth.  What do you see as the long-term effects of the Crisis on Hong Kong in particular and on the region in general? 

Answer: The financial crisis was indeed quite a shock to many economies of the region, and all are thankful that recovery seems to be occurring quickly.  What has been most notable through the crisis is that all economies understood that the way out is to move forward to more reform and openness, not backwards into isolation.  Thus as the economic dynamic has emerged, governments remain committed to continuing the policy dynamic of reform.  We work in organizations like APEC to support the momentum and help people carry through on their intentions.  Only if we complete the processes of putting in place stronger market mechanisms and better and more impartial economic management can we prevent a recurrence of crisis.  Furthermore, electronic business and the emerging digital society require even more openness, fewer barriers and more opportunity, so all our economies must continue to move in that direction to take advantage of the future.

Insight: You headed U.S. operations in Hong Kong during the British return of sovereignty to China.  Nearly two years later, how do you judge the stewardship of Hong Kong’s political leaders?  Do you feel that Hong Kong’s government has gained or lost in terms of credibility in protecting legal and civil rights?  Lastly what grade and why would you give the Hong Kong leadership on their handling on the Asian Financial Crisis? 

Answer: Hong Kong remains an open, free society with an underlying dynamism that will stand it in good stead for the future.  At the same time, we have been concerned about some developments where Hong Kong’s unique autonomy has been at risk.  I don’t want to try to grade any foreign government on its performance; that is for its people to do,  but recent economic growth statistics and new developments in Hong Kong’s economy bode well for its future as a regional center, which is important for US interests.
 
 

About the Interviewer:  

Christopher W. Runckel, a former senior US diplomat who served in many counties in Asia, is a graduate of the University of Oregon and Lewis and Clark Law School. He served as Deputy General Counsel of President Gerald Ford’s Presidential Clemency Board. Mr. Runckel is the principal and founder of Runckel & Associates, a Portland, Oregon based consulting company that assists businesses expand business opportunities in Asia. (www.business-in-asia.com)

Until April of 1999, Mr. Runckel was Minister-Counselor of the US Embassy in Beijing, China. Mr. Runckel lived and worked in Thailand for over six years. He was the first permanently assigned U.S. diplomat to return to Vietnam after the Vietnam War. In 1997, he was awarded the U.S. Department of States highest award for service, the Distinguished Honor Award, for his contribution to improving U.S.-Vietnam relations. Mr. Runckel is one of only two non-Ambassadors to receive this award in the 200-year history of the U.S. diplomatic service.


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