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Exclusive Interview on Valuing Technology 
with Chris Westland
 
Question 1: You are Professor and Head of the Department of Information and Systems Management at Hong Kong University of Science and Technology. I also note that you are a CPA but assume from your current position that your focus following University was primarily in Information Systems. How did the idea for this new book come about and what background do you have in accounting or what research did you do to prepare you for this subject?

Answer: These ideas have been germinating for some time, and grew as a result of the unanswered questions I faced in both the accounting and technology fields. I have been working on this book, in one way or another, over the past 30 years, in both practice and in academe. On the accounting side, I have long been displeased with accounting’s inability to describe process, risk or systems underlying a firm’s operations. On the technology side, I have long been dissatisfied with our difficulties in making a value-motivated business case for technology investments. Accounting abuses during the Internet bubble motivated me to summarize my concerns – and the evidence for them – in this book, as well as initial steps towards resolving these problems. 

Bill Gates, arguably the most influential information technology pundit during the heady years of the dot-com frenzy, commented ‘the Internet bubble was the biggest disruption to real innovation in history.’ The Internet bubble sucked up hundreds of thousands of talented knowledge workers, and trillions of dollars of resources, giving both to the wrong people. The bubble inflated on the hype and flawed numbers concocted by flawed and contradictory valuation systems. 

In my mind, two disparate fraternities shoulder most of the responsibility for corporate valuation during the dot-com frenzy. The investment community, with hyperactive analysis and seductive sales pitches, promoted equity investments using valuations that always seemed on their way up. The accounting profession, charged since the 1930s with keeping the investment community in check, provided their moral conscience. 

Well, that’s the theory.

The priesthood of accounting, versed in their litany of audit, represents the voice of probity in the temples of industry. Not far away casting their lots on Wall Street, are the sinners, stock traders, cheered on by celebrity analysts. To my surprise, the same language is spoken in both the temples and the Street – the language of financial accounting. The priests are empowered to draw up lists of sins and are revered for the special talents they display. Sinners are not expected to avoid sins; they need only confess their errors openly. An annual audit is their plenary indulgence. And by the way, the priesthood is saddled with a medieval language which daily grows less relevant to a technology laden market. In my opinion, the priesthood is so ineffective in restraining sin because the sinners themselves can’t tell when they are sinning. 

I began thinking about these problems in the 1970s as a Certified Public Accountant (CPA) employed at the accounting firm of Touche Ross. Our offices, in the financial center of Chicago, were shared by corporate financial analysts and investment bankers. When our paths crossed, as they sometimes did on lifts or during lunch, I was perplexed by the fact that the same language was used in both places. Even more amazing was the occasional transmogrification of the highest of high priests in our accounting firm. When they would leave to the employ of their client firms for corporate jobs, they – often as not – would visibly metamorphosed into particularly wanton sinners. As I struggled against these contrasts, I found that – for all the purported rigor and formalism of our shared language, that language was not, in truth, all it was reputed to be. 

I suppose as a CPA that I am technically a member of the priesthood, though no doubt that priesthood would consider me apostate. For the past 30 years I have concentrated on information technology and on the management of technology. I have also grown increasingly skeptical of the efficacy of the accounting’s dated liturgy. Too many features of 21st century commerce are simply inexpressible in the language of accounting.

Our present language of accounting evolved from business conventions used in the 14th century Venetian merchant marine, and in the 16th century English manorial system for accounting for crops. The fact that neither of these businesses survives in its historical form is sure to cast suspicions that as the language got old, it was unable to express the needs of a complex and evolving world.

The opinion that the language of financial accounting is precise, rigorous, and objective is shared by an embarrassingly large share of both communities. Accountants argue that their numbers are ‘objective’ and ‘consistent’ thus as close to the truth as is possible; analysts make similar claims about their predictions. Yet no less an authority than Harvey Pitt, Chairman of the SEC observed that "there is no true number in accounting, and if there were, auditors would be the last people to find it." Only charlatans would claim to speak a language in which only the truth is ever told – and ‘truth’ in valuation is as much a matter of degree as intent. 

Since there is no such thing as a faultless account valuation, one might conclude that assessments of corporate value without an estimate of the error in that value also must be the work of charlatans. Yet this is the world of the accounting priesthood. Account valuations are stated with precision to the penny, and any assessment of error in their accounts – the ‘materiality’ – is carefully guarded and reported only under coercion from the courts.

The broad gap between accounting practice, on the one hand, and investment, on the other, might be expected to create tensions. In fact, a calm exists between the priesthood, and the legion of inveterate sinner-analysts – an equilibrium lubricated by generous salaries and even more generous commissions. 

The sinners on The Street may indeed be sinning because they have no way of understanding the liturgy. Can unavoidable sins truly be sins after all? Mr. Pitt seems not to think so, remarking that 

"No investor – certainly not any ordinary investor – can read these [financial reports] in a way that’s useful. An investor can’t know what’s been left out, why it’s left out or how it compares with other companies’ calculations. The quality of financial reporting leaves a great deal to be desired. Even if there were no issuer problems, the information is not timely – it’s stale when investors get it. Worse, it’s impenetrable " Or as it was bluntly put by Lehman Brothers accounting expert Robert Willens: "I don’t know anyone who uses GAAP net income anymore for anything."

Being a CPA myself, Mr. Willens’ and Mr. Pitt’s criticisms clearly hit a nerve. For nearly 30 years I have observed my colleagues both in academe and in practice. I analyzed in my book ‘Valuing Technology’ my understanding of what it is that both the sinners and priesthood were up to – and more importantly, how both have grown totally ineffective in addressing the dictates of the knowledge economy. 

Question 2: Obviously, the subject of accounting has become much more on everyone’s mind since the Enron disaster. Did you see this situation developing and do you believe it demonstrated new lessons that you would have liked to include in your book or was your focus more on the dot com meltdown of the last several years?

Answer:  Like most people, before their problems became public, I took Enron’s public pronouncements as well as their financial statements at face-value. And I for one, truly wanted to believe that Jeff Skilling had discovered a generic system for electronic markets which was applicable across products. These sorts of B2B exchanges were a major topic in my previous book, Global Electronic Commerce (MIT Press, 2000).

I don’t actually believe that Jeff Skilling started out with anything less than good (if not over ambitious) intentions. Certainly the subsequent cover-up is reprehensible, but if Skilling had wanted to bilk the public, he is clever enough to have avoided such a messy and complex denouement. 

Instead, I believe that Jeff Skilling (perhaps overenthusiastically and uncritically) championed Enron’s vision of electronic B2B markets. He did so in the context of intense competition and politics within Enron. Skilling had initially argued that electronic markets only work with fungible commodities (i.e., each unit is interchangeable with another), until some of Enron’s information technology staff came up with a "principal-intermediated" model of trading (similar to the NASDAQ stock trading system) which allowed non-fungibles such as electricity and bandwidth to be traded. In this model, Enron was forced to take large positions (perhaps 10% to 50% of the market) in contracts for perishable commodities (e.g., a contract for electricity on Sunday has effectively perished by Monday). This "principal-intermediated" model of trading system was able to make markets in electricity and bandwidth; a truly "open platform" system which merely searched through orders and matched up buyers and sellers could not make markets in such contracts because they are too illiquid. 

The problem is that by taking positions in these contracts, Enron also shouldered the risk of the contracts expiring without ever being sold. Even a small number of expirations could wipe out the profits from other trading. Such "principal-intermediated" markets require specialization and an intimate understanding of demand for the commodity. For example, NASDAQ dealers and NYSE specialists typically specialize in only a few companies they know well. Enron probably had this intimate knowledge of demand in oil and gas contracts, but it is doubtful they had it across the 1000 or so markets in which they dabbled. 

Add to this a lot of young, ambitious and adrenaline charged traders, and a culture that according to Enron’s 2000 annual report says it "is laser-focused on earnings per share" and risk simply grew out of control. Enron’s trading losses were not a matter of ‘if’ but a matter of ‘when.’ I’m sure that Skilling realized that he was in over his head when he stepped down in Summer 2001.

The evidence of problems had been there for some time. EnronOnline’s transaction volumes grew at 60% in 1999, and 30% in 2000 and 2001, with declining profitability of each transaction. Revenues grew by $10 billion from 1998 to 1999, and then jumped by another $60 billion to $100 billion in 2000. Profits before tax, on the other hand, rose by $1 billion in 1998, and by under $500m in both 1999 and 2000. Enron's return on capital was only 6.6% in 2000, less than rivals such as Williams and Dynegy. 

Enron delayed its day of reckoning by offloading risk to ‘special-purpose entities’ – off-balance-sheet entities were set up. These were not wholly independent of Enron, but were judged sufficiently separate that their profit or loss did not have to be consolidated into the company's results. Assets, i.e, contracts for perishables or portfolios of perishables, were then "sold" to these entities. 

Reckoning came suddenly. In October 2001, Enron wrote-off $1 billion on water distribution, broadband trading and other investments, and suffered a $1.2 billion capital reduction from "hedging" (i.e. a ploy to lock in profits through reducing the volatility of a portfolio by reducing the risk of loss.) Much of the subsequent investigation has centered on the cover-up of Enron’s problems rather than the structural problems that led to them. But until we learn from Enron’s mistakes, there can be no guarantee against a similar debacle in the near future. 

Question 3: In your introduction you note that this book puts forward "your thoughts on the next stage in the development of tools and techniques that are needed to guide investors and managers in the as yet inadequately charted realms of the technology-intensive, knowledge-centric industries of the twenty-first century." What has been the reception of the book and has your hoped for dialogue already started?

Answer:  I am delighted with the response I have received so far on ‘Valuing Technology.’ Much of the work on the book was done during the period of the dot.com frenzy. I expected criticism from dot.com evangelists and financial promoters alike. But the dot.com crash and the subsequent outrage over abuses at the large securities and accounting firms have aroused a general awareness that the axis of business and wealth has shifted – from ‘things’ to ‘ideas.’ The transformation has been taking place over the past 20 years, and only in the 1990’s came to dominate economics. ‘Valuing Technology’ identifies and articulates these changes, and also shows why the classical approaches to valuation – employed in GAAP financial accounting, and approaches like discounted cash flow and residual income – work only for a declining portion of the economy. Today, that portion of the economy accounts for under 20% of US GDP, and less than 15% of jobs. It is represented in the sunset industries of the industrial economy. My book’s publication has brought my research work over the past two decades to the attention of others who have been promoting the need for revisions in accounting and financial valuation (with, I might add, only mixed success). To some extent, we have all had to oppose powerful and inherently conservative accounting and finance communities who have lobbied for their traditional approaches. But because the world has changed so greatly over the past decade, I think there is now a critical mass of researchers and practitioners that recognize the need for new approaches to accounting and valuation. These professionals will guide and shape accounting and finance through the next decade. 

Question 4: In your book you state that the "last decade has seen the world move decisively from one government by the economics of scarcity to one governed by the economics of information." Could you give your reasons for this view and also state why you think old line companies instead of "tech" companies seem to be the ones currently moving most quickly upward in the stock market?

Answer: I think a dichotomization into ‘new-economy’ (i.e., ‘tech’) and ‘old-economy’ companies can be misleading. In fact, some of the most productive and innovative users of technology are in what you might call ‘old-line’ industries – companies like Wal-Mart, GE, BankOne and Charles Schwab. When you have both scale and technology, the rewards are multiplied. And it is often the ‘old-economy’ companies that have sufficient scale to realize the efficiencies from applying new technology. Thus investors are (rightly) putting their money in large firms that know how to use technology. These are run by smart managers in old industries. 

There is also the fact that many stocks in the ‘tech’ sector are still overvalued. Financial accounting fails to provide credible numbers, and investors see these as increasingly risky, and thus bid them down. For example, Bill Gates observed "Our primary assets, which are our software and our software-development skills, do not show up on the balance sheet at all. This is probably not very enlightening from a pure accounting point of view." Indeed virtually none of Microsoft’s assets show up in their financial statements. Companies with a higher proportion of tangible assets are better accounted for, and thus seem lest risky. In the post-Enron world, exposure to the risk of accounting shenanigans is a significant mover of markets.

What we do see, though, is a continued rise in labor productivity throughout the US economy, much of it attributable to successful technology implementations. Productivity growth is most pronounced in six sectors – wholesale trade (.37), retail (.34), securities (.25), semiconductors (.17), computer manufacturing (.12) and telecommunications (.07) – and these industries are most likely to be rewarded in the markets (the numbers in parentheses are the contributions to the 2.32% average annual labor productivity growth over all US industries from 1995 to 1999).

Question 5: You note in your book the outdated nature of many long established accounting principles. If we are to move beyond these, what better performance measurement criteria can you suggest to give today’s investors and managers a firmer grasp of a company’s performance?

Answer: I would suggest an integrated methodology specifically designed address the shortcomings of the 600-year old precepts on which GAAP is based, and specifically designed to take advantage of the capabilities of modern tools, including (1) computers, which have been in development over the past four decades (2) managerial strategy introduced over the past two decades, (3) Bayesian statistics largely developed in the 20th century, and (4) engineering, developed over the 19th and 20th centuries. I am in the process of doing this now, and will release the methodology – which I am tentatively calling Financial Dynamics – in my upcoming book due out later this year. I have implemented the methodology in a software package.

The major advantage of Financial Dynamics over traditional valuation models is that it provides formal roles for all of the major classes of objective and subjective information at the analyst’s disposal. Without specific formal roles for available information, analysts are driven to ad hocracy – i.e., willy-nilly incorporation of information in incomplete or flawed fashion into the limited models available for computing value. 

The classical example is the failure of GAAP accounting to report anything at all of risk, variance or unit volume statistics in a transaction flow, let alone investor and consumer sentiment about the company and its products. Thus forecasts (and thus financial valuations using forecast future cash flows and earnings) are likely to exclude most of the information needed for accuracy. Analysts introduce these after application of DCF or other valuation approaches, and then in an ad hoc and usually imprecise way. Such forecasts may or may not be inaccurate. But they are likely to be inconsistent, and their assumptions, accuracy, transparency, and validity are difficult to ascertain, and probably severely lacking.

Financial dynamics turns the perspective of traditional accounting for wealth accumulation on its head. In the agricultural and industrial economies, the value of a business was measured by its stored assets minus claims to those assets. This is implicit in traditional accounting reports that depict a business in vaguely articulated formal and informal processes that generate stored wealth (i.e., assets) while using up, via expenses, some part of the firm’s wealth endowment.

Financial dynamics (FD) focuses, instead, on the processes that impel the value flows through the firm. This makes much more sense in the knowledge economy, where the major (knowledge) assets are difficult to store, quickly grow obsolete, and because they are ‘non-rival’, may be impossible to unequivocally own or protect from theft. In the knowledge economy, value comes from ‘ideas in action’. Knowledge assets possess negligible value until they are put to work. 

In accountings ‘stored wealth’ perspective on corporate value, stocks have played the central role in audit and bookkeeping. In Financial Dynamics, stocks, if they exist at all, are just another cost of doing business. And usually less is more, whether we are speaking of inventory, equipment or any other traditional store of wealth. 

The Financial Dynamics perspective is a ‘value flow’ perspective, thus the valuation model focuses on transaction flows that reflect the creation of value. These give us a time-series model which can both ‘learn’ – i.e. integrate new objective data – and also make the most of insights, qualitative knowledge and other sorts of ‘subjective’ data.

Question 6: In your book you note that there are four major influences on a technology company’s wealth – technology acceleration, network externalities, organizational scaling, and geographical scaling. Could you briefly define these and use a current example of an Asian company to demonstrate how they work together?

Answer: There have been four influences in business which have grown in importance because of the demands for managing ever more complex technologies. All reflect the way that production and value-creation scale – over time (technology acceleration), over space (geographical scaling), over customers (network externalities), and over employees (organizational scaling). The added complexity is both the source of competitive advantage, as well as a catalyst for change. 

Advances in technology force firms to effectively manage complexity as a predicate to their own survival. Over time, this added knowledge intensity shifts the balance of costly resources invested in skill sets, maintaining barriers to entry, reaching customers, and controlling supply and production. Management may perceive these changes only as an evolutionary shift in the cost or availability of particular resources, or as temporary fads in a fickle marketplace. Over time, the effect can be dramatic, as particular aspects of business crossover from insignificance to being critical to the strategy of the company. Crossover occurs when the cost of a particular resource scales – often in a highly non-linear fashion. Scaling is the rate at which a particular cost grows or declines over time, with volume, over organization size, or with customer base. Four major types of scaling are dominant in knowledge intensive businesses – (1) intelligence scaling and knowledge networks, (2) technology acceleration, (3) geographical scaling, and (4) organizational scaling. We will describe each of these in turn. 

(1) intelligence scaling and knowledge networks: New wealth is generated when individuals scale-up their personal intelligence by tapping into a global network of knowledge. Webster’s dictionary defines a network as ‘a complex, interconnected group or system of storage sites (called nodes) and transport functions.’ In knowledge networks, an extended group of people with similar interests or concerns interacts to share knowledge and experiences. Data communications networks have provided the most prominent innovations in computers over the past decade. These networks take digitized knowledge and make it available worldwide. Such ‘intelligence’ sharing has revolutionized the marketplace, created new sources of wealth, and restructured the character of work.

(2) technology acceleration: Moore’s Law suggests that the cost effectiveness of new replacement computers improves exponentially; conversely, our investments in computing need to be depreciated using an exponential – not linear – model. The economics of the computer business have changed to such an extent quantitatively, that they have yielded a qualitative change in the allocation of costs over time. In practice, Moore’s Law directly affects accounting for semiconductors and products that use them. Consider computer manufacturers Dell and Gateway, who use internal models that completely depreciate inventory over a 3-month period. 

(3) geographical scaling: Each new technology has the potential to remap the ‘distances’ between people and places; this in turn demands that firms restructure the "things" they do to remain competitive. In general, the remapping enabled by new information and communications technologies makes the world smaller. So pronounced has been the effect that it is perhaps more difficult to measure the shrinkage of the world today than it was even a decade ago. 

The geographical scaling enabled by communications technologies strongly impacts fields that are knowledge intensive. In software, banking, insurance, and R&D, the trend is toward globalization, speed and responsiveness, and greater information sharing with customers. Globalization also increases the importance of government policy and infrastructure investment in finance, security, encryption, taxation, censorship, ownership and regulation, and so forth. Money and business will go where it is treated well. 

(4) organizational scaling: Global transportation and communication networks have brought about fundamental changes in the structure of organizations in three ways. First, they have flattened the hierarchy or firms, eliminating vertical ‘stovepipes’ by enabling communication across and around organizational lines. Firms have become inured to the speed and efficiency of horizontal communications. Second, downsizing has culled workers with lower skill levels from organizational ranks. Firms increasingly are composed of a small core of smart, adaptable employees who can learn to use technology to greatly enhance their effectiveness and efficiency. Obtaining such efficiencies was the focus of much of the reengineering movement in the 1990s. Finally, super-efficient market coordination through global networks provide efficient market alternatives to internal production. 

While not strictly Asian, Dell Computer sources much if not most of its components from Asia. In fact it is dependent on the nimble response Asian suppliers to make its model work. The nimble response of Asian suppliers, with the well lubricated logistics for global shipment let Dell benefit from a significant geographic scaling. Dell provides the ‘network’ that allows this extended network of producers to communicate with Dell’s customers, and to share the benefits of Dell’s branding and support. This network externality has conquered the less developed models of Dell’s competitors. It’s supply-chain management is built around i2 software with the goal of replacing inventory with information – and keeping both inventory and employees at a minimum. This has resulted in a very lean organizational scale which was once only known to the Japanese auto manufacturers. And the main reason for Dell’s obsession with inventory control is that procurement costs decline by 1% per week because of technology acceleration. A 1/10th percent reduction in inventory levels results in the same profit contribution as a 10% increase in production efficiency. Dell’s business model simply would not be competitive without taking advantage of all four scaling effects.

Question 7: In Chapter 9 of your book you point out that financial analysts often do much to misstate and often offer flawed views of how the stock market works for technology companies. Can you explain your views on this and again take a real life example in Asia to demonstrate your point?

Answer: Capital markets are not simply machines for calculating prices; they provide a focus of social, political and commercial sentiment in the business community. They provide the source of funds – either debt, equity, or increasingly a dizzying plethora of hybrids that fit neither one category nor the other; the mere existence of these markets implies a potential use for funds that are invested in firm projects – and thus represent an opportunity cost, and; they provide a nexus for investor sentiment – one which influences trading behavior, communicates trader sentiment, and sets investors’ expectations. Thus a valuation based on fundamentals of the business is only a first step in assessing the security price for a particular company’s stock. Because of their social and political role, markets are not necessarily efficient, nor are they always rational. Investors may play games with available information, or create information asymmetries for their own benefit. Even though this behavior may appear ‘irrational’ from a strictly return maximizing standpoint, there are very predictable mechanisms that bias prices away from that which would appear in a theoretically ‘efficient’ market. This seemingly ‘inefficient’ or ‘irrational’ behavior often projects itself onto equity market prices. 

Consider the ‘rationality’ of the market in the case of Hong Kong high flyer Pacific Century Cyberworks (PCCW). PCCW, founded in 1999 without products or business rationale, represents a classic example of a speculative bubble and the way in which public perception was manipulated in wholesale fashion to enrich its founders at the expense of others. The great names of investment banking played their role and the market completely ‘bought’ the story sold by the scion of one of Hong Kong’s powerbrokers. PCCW was able to enrich early-round investors by sucking in later investors or company vendors at higher prices per share. That is how an equity spiral works – when the last willing investor has bought in, and the last willing vendor has accepted the paper, then the bubble bursts. On the 15th of February 2000, PCCW shares closed at HK$26.35, which turns out to be their record high. PCCW used its inflated stock to buy Cable & Wireless HKT Ltd, a highly indebted former monopoly utility companies with media interests and unsuccessful in adapting to the Internet age. PCCW-HKT shares are now trading at around $2 a share. 

Oddly enough, since PCCW’s founding in 1999, independent analyst David Webb (www.webb-site.com) had provided extensive data supporting a fair value for PCCW stock of not more than $5, a figure which was widely accepted in the finance community. Yet the public was will to pay more than five times that much for PCCW shares. So much for market efficiency.

Question 8: In Chapter 11, you give ten prescriptions for constructing successful strategies in knowledge-intensive businesses. Could you explain those and again give examples from real life for our readers?

Answer: I suppose these were just more specific ways of saying ‘keep it simple’ and ‘keep your market focus.’ To quickly reiterate, these ten prescriptions for constructing successful strategies in knowledge-intensive business are:

  • Analyze your technology choices with two goals – first and foremost, minimize future uncertainty; second maximize performance.
  • Choose technologies that pay off quickly. Don’t pin down talented people on low-yield projects.
  • Don’t try to value a technology until you know what you want and why you need it. You can’t choose your value metric without defining critical activities and their objectives.
  • Choose technologies that complement and supplement each other – this promotes organizational learning, and shares support costs across technologies. A firm is an integrated system of value generating processes, not a parts list. 
  • Choose cheap technologies to support and complement the expensive technologies.
  • If there are two available technologies – one simple, the other complicated – choose the simple technology.
  • Use everything you know in your business, even if it seems irrelevant. This helps maintain your competitive edge. It helps you define marketable technologies in networked markets with room for only one leader.
  • Do everything you can in your own facilities with your own employees. Employees need the experience to learn new technologies. Keep your employees loyal – competitors can easily steal knowledge.
  • Have enough employees with expertise in the technologies that you know you will need.
  • Elegant technology is no substitute for market leadership. Choose technologies that your customers want; not technologies that your engineers want to work with.
My choice for the company that best embodies these strategies is Microsoft, although like any company, it is far from perfect. One can see how Microsoft balances R&D with long-term payoffs with the need to keep competitive its core products, Windows and Office (points 1 and 2). Microsoft, being market driven, typically has an idea of what it wants when it hits the market (point 3) and is masterful at linking and leveraging its complementary strengths (point 4). Though it may not seem so, Microsoft does tend to favor cheap and simple technologies (points 5 and 6) but these can get complex in trying to retain its monopolies. Its R&D with long-term payoff is both a vehicle for corporate learning, but for finding new twists for existing products (points 7, 8 and 9). And point 10 ‘elegant technology is no substitute for market leadership’ – need I say more? 

Question 9: Also in the same chapter, you list strategic questions that every manager should be asking his or herself. Can you list these and explain just how a complete and accurate accounting system answers each of them?

Answer: The knowledge economy is one where power has transitioned to the consumer. These five question are intended to remind the manager of that fact when setting strategy. Let me quickly reiterate these questions:

  • What is the competitive situation in the marketplace and how does it help or hurt us?
  • Where and how do we fail to be competitive in comparison to other market participants?
  • What do our customers want, and how (and how well) do we provide it?
  • What are our key failures in market performance?
  • What are the costs (drop in value) of not taking immediate action to address the first four questions?
  • ‘Completeness’ of accounting is the relevant concept. Today’s generally accepted accounting principles (GAAP) include ‘The Entity Concept’ – the concept that accounting quits at the legal boundary of the firm. The consequence of such traditions is seen in the Enron debacle – risky assets and losses were hived off to ‘special purpose entities’ where they could be kept out of the accounting statements, thus perpetrating a massive (but perfectly legal) fraud. A complete accounting system must account for all value or loss generating activities up and down the value chain. A complete accounting system must fully report the risk distribution of value or loss generating activities up and down the value chain. GAAP does neither. Instead it hides behind legal obfuscations line special purpose entities and uncertain intellectual property rights in its defense of incomplete reporting. If GAAP were expanded in such a fashion, then answering these questions for competitors in a given market would be much simpler and more direct. With current GAAP accounting, it is essentially impossible.

    Question 10: Since the Dot com debacle of the last several years, have you seen any improvement in the tools of measurement and analysis that allow investors and managers to better value and understand their technology investments? Could a similar meltdown occur in the near future?

    Answer: There is considerably more discussion, but at this point, I have not seen a satisfying improvement in the quality or comprehensiveness of valuation approaches. The problem is that valuation has become vastly more complex with the emergence of so-called knowledge economy firms – firms whose products and operations revolve around information technology, the Internet, and other information intensive activities. At the root of this quest for better ways to track the performance of businesses when investments are primarily in intangibles such as process knowledge, customer knowledge, or technical knowledge. Such businesses now contribute over 80% of GDP in developed economies. They include information technology powerhouses like Microsoft and Cisco, who are being joined by knowledge firms in biotechnology such as Pfizer and Pharmacia, and eventually nanotechnology.

    Valuation approaches for ‘intangibles’ which track assets only as storable commodities at historical cost misses most of the value creation going on in the 21st century. For this reason, too, I am uncomfortable with most of the newer ‘stored wealth’ approaches currently used to value so-called ‘knowledge capital.’ ‘Stored wealth’ approaches attempt to classify particular historical costs for patents, software and so forth. Such approaches are reflected in the software and goodwill accounting regulated by FASB 86 and FASB 141 and is reflected in various ‘brand equity’ formularies now popular in marketing. Columnist and management writer Tom Stewart summarized in his book Intellectual Capital: The New Wealth of Organizations various definitions of intellectual capital – i.e., knowledge, information, intellectual property, experience – that can create future wealth. But a ‘stored wealth’ definition of intellectual capital is, at best, a slippery concept, covering everything from a patent granted on a new type of gadget to the personal relationship between a top salesman and his best customer. Yet this is the most common approach seen for ‘intangibles’ like brand equity, R&D and so forth. 

    The real problem lies in measurement, and in consequence the strategic use of any derived valuation. The knowledge economy does not see production in terms of lumps of value (like lumps of gold) that sit around forever until sold. In contrast, a ‘value flow’ perspective on valuation makes the intrinsic assumption that information, knowledge and other intangibles only generates only through application in the revenue generating activities of the firm. Traditional notions of discounting future revenue streams to compute value, or matching expenses to ongoing activities are perfectly applicable in this scenario. 

    The process perspective that I take presumes a clear understanding of how the particular knowledge assets in which the firm invests can in fact be used in the future to generate value. Since there is no certainty in future corporate action, contingent scenarios (such as those addressed in real options and decision tree valuations) need to be considered in calculating value.

    Question 11: At this point, if I could turn away from your book to another subject you have often focused on – global technology policy. Hong Kong, Singapore, Shanghai, Beijing and Taiwan are all competing to become the focus of technology investment for the region. Of the many competitors is there any one city or area that you think stands out as best understanding the challenge and moving to address it?

    Answer: I would have to say Singapore at this time, followed by Taiwan and Shanghai. Each faces its own endowments and challenges, so the verdict is still out as to whether their policies will pay off. I have been disappointed with my home city, Hong Kong, which has opted to protect its civil service, finance community and property developers over more enlightened policies at a time when business is increasingly global and virtual.

    Question 12: Also, are their particular Asian companies that you feel best demonstrate an in depth understanding of technology investment and could be models to others in the region? Also, could you explain why and give examples?

    Answer: I think of the large companies in the region, that Flextronics in Singapore and Sony and Yamaha in Japan are great examples. But all over the region, one can find small and medium sized firms that embody the spirit of sound technology investment. It is these firms that will grow to be world contenders over the coming decade. And it is in the small and medium sized firms that I see Asia’s greatest potential for the future.

    Question 13: This book – Valuing Technology – was your second book published in the last two years. Do you currently have a new book or project in production and could you tell us a little about it? 

    Answer: Thank you for asking. I have actually outlined several books extending the research in ‘Valuing Technology.’  I warned in this book that I was unable to offer an exact system for computing the value of knowledge-intensive companies. In my next book, tentatively titled ‘Financial Dynamics’ which is due out this year, I have set as my mission the construction of a comprehensive system of valuation for businesses whose core competencies are predicated on knowledge-intensive processes. The book will be sold with software that implements the methodology.

    My goal in writing ‘Financial Dynamics’ is to accurately assess value in the technology intensive firms of the knowledge economy, just as historical cost based accounting was able to in the old agricultural and trading economies. The goal of ‘Financial Dynamics’ is not just valuation as an end in itself, but also to provide tools to move strategy from an ad hoc art form to an objective, informed and scientific discipline based on comparative values of strategies. The knowledge economy has presents investors and managers with incredible challenges, because the tools that we have traditionally used to measure performance – accounting metrics – are increasingly divorced from fiscal reality. 

    Strategy in technology firms has grown complex over the past decade, and managers have to be much smarter to do it well. They urgently need new tools to decide how to extract value from new technology. In the context of these new models, though, classical tools of valuation – double entry bookkeeping and discounted cash flow – rely on business models from a simpler era, and produce results that may be inaccurate or irrelevant to current strategy. Management strategy must be carried out in a market-oriented context of equity capital, R&D, promotion and delivery. Strategy, in this sense, is a rational process of deliberate calculation and analysis, designed to maximize long-term value. 

    The most striking change brought about by the increasing complexity of technology is the need for more and more investment not directly related to constructing the revenue generating goods and services of the firm. In extractive industries such as mining and petroleum; or in low technology production such as household consumables, expenses such as R&D, process control, quality assurance, customization and so forth are minimal. These ‘support activities’ become the major contributors to corporate expenses in knowledge intensive technology companies. They dwarf the ‘primary activities’ that are directly involved with assembling and packaging the products that are sold. Software represents an extreme – it is entirely comprised of fixed costs of supporting activities; the marginal cost of producing an additional copy of software is essentially zero, even though there is a positive unit revenue expected from each sale. 

    To improve the breadth and accuracy of valuation tools, I have shifted the focus of Financial Dynamics’ valuation to a dynamic, process-based, value flow orientation; away from the classical ‘stored wealth’ perspective. This allows a more accurate and objective basis for forecasting future earnings and cash flows, and thus fits better with modern ‘discounting’ to obtain firm, project and asset valuation. It should also improve the accuracy of older approaches like discounted cash flow which try to artificially graft concepts of intertemporal economies, discounting and contingent commodities onto a centuries old framework of ‘stored wealth.’ 
     

    About the Interviewer:   Christopher W. Runckel, a former senior US diplomat who served in many counties in Asia, is a graduate of the University of Oregon and Lewis and Clark Law School.  He served as Deputy General Counsel of President Gerald Ford’s Presidential Clemency Board.

    Until April of 1999, Mr. Runckel was Minister-Counselor of the US Embassy in Beijing, China.  Mr. Runckel lived and worked in Thailand for over six years.  He was the first permanently assigned U.S. diplomat to return to Vietnam after the Vietnam War.  In 1997, he was awarded the U.S. Department of States highest award for service, the Distinguished Honor Award, for his contribution to improving U.S.-Vietnam relations.  Mr. Runckel is one of only two non-Ambassadors to receive this award in the 200-year history of the U.S. diplomatic service.


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